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Uncut ran a feature in thge feb issue (I think) on SM where they also talk to Nast and Joanna....pretty nice.

"It´s a fine line between clever and..eh.. stupid"

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http://thespecblog.com/reviews/review-s … edy-ortiz/

http://thespecblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/IMG_8472-682x1024.jpg

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"It´s a fine line between clever and..eh.. stupid"

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http://therumpus.net/2014/04/the-rumpus … n-malkmus/

"It´s a fine line between clever and..eh.. stupid"

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now thihs is a good interview

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bewls wrote:

now thihs is a good interview

Ye, one of the best I've ever read and very interesting/revealing too. Now we know what happened to Flower Children (looking at you nomnom)...

"It´s a fine line between clever and..eh.. stupid"

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Also interesting how spiral saved summer babe with his suggestion to leave it at 3 chords..
The Qs were pretty good but the responses were the best i have ever read..
Thanks for posting Swedist

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Yeah, that was great.  One of the best I've read.  The stuff about his artistic relationships with Berman but also Kannberg, Nastanovich, and Eklow, were really interesting.

The part about wanting to sing and doing more instrumental passages... that's interesting.  I'd lose my shit if he did what Oldham has done and bring in writing partners who play guitar (Matt Sweeney, Emmet Kelley).  Seriously, a Jicks+Nels Cline or SM+Calexico record would be bananas.

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bewls wrote:

Also interesting how spiral saved summer babe with his suggestion to leave it at 3 chords..

I say Spiral Stairs should produce the next Jicks album.

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Now there is an idea that would be great to film...

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perfectdepth wrote:
bewls wrote:

Also interesting how spiral saved summer babe with his suggestion to leave it at 3 chords..

I say Spiral Stairs should produce the next Jicks album.

Holy crap this would be interesting. I really have no place saying shit on this, but it certainly seems like they are on good terms, and SM has done it all post-Pavement -- by himself, with Remko, the "glamour" album with Beck... the stories we hear, Spiral seemed to rescue some albums from having horrible track sequences, and kept SM in check on a few things. Would be interesting to see what his input in the studio would do to the Jicks.

- Nathan

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SM SEZ wrote:

I think it’s as important. My wife says that I changed people’s lives or ways of thinking and that I should always be proud and grateful. If I’m dismissive of what we do sometimes, a little bit, she’s like, “I was a fan, you changed my life,” or whatever. That’s what she says.

She's smart, and she's right, Malkdude. Listen to her.

- Nathan

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nguideau wrote:
perfectdepth wrote:
bewls wrote:

Also interesting how spiral saved summer babe with his suggestion to leave it at 3 chords..

I say Spiral Stairs should produce the next Jicks album.

Holy crap this would be interesting. I really have no place saying shit on this, but it certainly seems like they are on good terms, and SM has done it all post-Pavement -- by himself, with Remko, the "glamour" album with Beck... the stories we hear, Spiral seemed to rescue some albums from having horrible track sequences, and kept SM in check on a few things. Would be interesting to see what his input in the studio would do to the Jicks.

God no!
Pavement was ever at their best when Spiral was overruled or sidelined.
I invariably feel he makes the wrong call about music (now business, that's something else): 'Summer babe' so needs a chorus, a 12-track 'Wowee zowee' would've been such a loss, the compromised 'Brighten the corners' could've been so much better with a better selection from the existant recordings...

But a great, great interview. I'm going to read this again a couple of times. There's a lot in there.

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I don't know, aside from a few duds here and there, I've always thought Spiral was a little underappreciated in Pavement. Kennel District is one of Pave's best songs, IMO.

Also, from what I've read over the years, it sounds like he's the official Pavement archivist with shelling out photos and things kept over the years for the reissues and what not. He clearly has a lot of love, pride, and enthusiasm for that band, which is something SM lacks and has always kinda bothered me a bit - just because Pavement has meant so much to me and he kind of writes it off like, "meh."

Nels Cline and SM - now THAT would be an interesting combo!!

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There's plenty to be thankful for -

Without Spiral I'm quite convinced none of us would ever heard of Stephen Malkmus. He was the early entrepreneur - pressing up 7 inches and sending them out, and so on.

He's the man behind the reissues.

He kept the band rolling a couple of times when I think most of the others would've walked away.

Musically I'm sure he still feels he did a good job steering Stephen with his 'excellent taste'. You know that's something Mike Love prides himself on too.

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No offense shrinky but i am glad you didnt produce those tunes or albums..
Summer babe is excatly right for me. I think a chorus would have made it typical tune where i just love that it stays so simple and defined in its own space..i think its perfect and creates a real mood with the 3 and the tone achieved..also the very unenthusiastic timber fits it so well..
Wowee Z i just listened to on headphones as i laze around here in north vietnam and although still find some tunes hard to get into, those are usually short. It has its own life and can see them just throwing the sink during the recordings
I find BTC as excellent as can be exactly because it wanders around and doesnt crane its neck
Just my thoughts mind you, doesnt mean im right...

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I make no claims whatsoever about my own musical or producer ability! smile

I'm also really happy for the role that Spiral played in the story of one of my favorite bands. Like I said, without him I don't think there would have been a Pavement. I can't see Stephen really pushing it out there on his own steam.

But to me the keyline in the interview is 'we outgrew each other pretty quickly'.
Every interview you read with Spiral, he's setting himself up as some sort of Pavement musical guru. 'Oh, you know, Stephen may have written those songs and played just about every instrument on them and been there during the mixing. BUT what's really important is, he played it to me in my living room one time in passing and I said 'That's a pop one!'  And you know, that's the moment that really made that song. I know what pop is.'

That stuff annoys me no end.

But the results are there to hear, and we can just be happy about everything they made. I do love it all, but my favorites are always the moments when they get out from under the schoolteacher's watch for a moment ('Pacific trim'! 'Wowee zowee', 'Terror twilight!' 'Brighten the corners' bsides and unreleased songs).

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the stuff about outgrowing spiral is interesting, as is the stuff about david berman's new angry writing and how he still plays music sometimes. wondering wether we will ever hear new music from him. solo album? definitely excited whatever form it takes.

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Jicks on Dirty Laundry TV:

http://vimeo.com/92732672

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avalanche wrote:

Jicks on Dirty Laundry TV:

http://vimeo.com/92732672

Thanks for sharing! So cool! I have my fingers crossed that SM will appear on Mac Maron's WTF podcast soon.

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avalanche wrote:

Jicks on Dirty Laundry TV:

http://vimeo.com/92732672


steve should have more love for terror twilight!


"Folk Jam"
"You Are a Light"
"Billie"
"Speak, See, Remember"
"The Hexx"

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avalanche wrote:

Jicks on Dirty Laundry TV:

http://vimeo.com/92732672

Thanks for posting.  I like hearing Stephen talk about his girls.  I have 3 children myself, two of which are now 5 year old twin girls.  A couple of summers ago I had to play "the Tiger song" over and over and over when we were going to daycare.

You know a song is hella catchy when 3 year old girls want to hear it.

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jickjoosment wrote:
avalanche wrote:

Jicks on Dirty Laundry TV:

http://vimeo.com/92732672


steve should have more love for terror twilight!


"Folk Jam"
"You Are a Light"
"Billie"
"Speak, See, Remember"
"The Hexx"

I thought he was saying that that was one he liked the most?  Everyone should have more love for Terror Twilight!  It's wonderful!

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miranda wrote:
jickjoosment wrote:
avalanche wrote:

Jicks on Dirty Laundry TV:

http://vimeo.com/92732672


steve should have more love for terror twilight!


"Folk Jam"
"You Are a Light"
"Billie"
"Speak, See, Remember"
"The Hexx"

I thought he was saying that that was one he liked the most?  Everyone should have more love for Terror Twilight!  It's wonderful!

He was saying those were faves? So many things to choose from, makes me want to buy those albums again and give them another listen.

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It's a confusing answer. I think he's talking about the 'worst ones', but it's hard to tell.

'Best ones... Worst ones are 'Terror twilight', 'Brighten the corners', 'Face the truth'. Self-titled isn't that good... 'Wowee zowee' is pretty strong. And 'Wig out' You're supposed to say the new one. That may not be true. I'm witholding...'

Jeez... At least three of my favorites in there among the worst ones.

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I think it is hard to watch your heroes age, and yet I can't help but smile at the world-weary Malkmus we see in this video... He is SO perpetually detached... He reminds me of my old man somewhat, actually (I am 28 years old for context). It's strange to see him kind of wince at the memory of some of my favorite recordings of all time... He is asked about his favorite record, and immediately turns to 'the worst ones'... I want to pull him aside & tell him that Face The Truth is a lot fucking better than just okay...