Topic: jangley guitars, angular chops: guitar gear thread

tell us about your gear, tell us about malk's gear, tell us about new gear...

do u strive for original tone, do you enjoy emulating the greats?

here's what im rockin these days:

http://i.imgur.com/QgWG9SL.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/FCb5Ehy.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/6cBce7Z.jpg

2 (edited by setyabacksetyabacksetya 2015-08-12 07:07:58)

Re: jangley guitars, angular chops: guitar gear thread

We've had handfuls of these threads in the past, but i'm a nerd so i'll oblige again. anyway, and it's been a while.

Fender Strat, thinskin, USA 2007. #1
Fender Strat, black label, "squier series", Mexico 1994
No-name Strat, plywood body, Japan, 1970's

Effects: Diamond J-Drive mk2, Blackout Effectors Fix'd Fuzz Deluxe (in its own loop and blended in with a Mosquite Blend by One Control), TC Flashback Delay, Boss TU-2 tuner. EHX Holy Grail in my amp's effects loop.

Amp is an Orange TH-30 head that I play thru a homemade 2x12.

The above can pull off a pretty convincing "Malkmus tone," especially if I play with my fingers --  Strat > dirt > delay > Orange amp set clean. I've never thought of myself as trying to play "like _______," but I've listened to so much Pavement and Malkmus that the sound of a Stratocaster neck pickup going through a british tube amp set loud and clean is kind of like "home base" for me. I've had jazzmasters and tele's, but I just love strats.

I also play bass in a band, so I have a '94 black label Precision Bass that I run through the exact same pedal board, minus the J-Drive which is cuts low freq's (well so does the fuzz, but it's in a blended loop). 300-watt solid state Acoustic head (cheapo Guitar Center store brand basically, but LOUD), through a 70's Ampeg 4x10.

Re: jangley guitars, angular chops: guitar gear thread

im experiencing serious GAS for the JHS color box

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so i bought it
https://www.jhspedals.com/products/guit … colourbox/

and i bought this phase 24 with the roshni robert art
https://robertkeeley.com/Keeley_Art_Mon … dals_Week1

5 (edited by bewls 2015-08-09 03:30:11)

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The Buttface fuzz and maxon are from Dean Wareham


https://scontent-lga1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/t31.0-8/11872221_10205745156201054_5214829509552537726_o.jpg

Re: jangley guitars, angular chops: guitar gear thread

bewls wrote:

The Buttface fuzz and maxon are from Dean Wareham


https://scontent-lga1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/t31.0-8/11872221_10205745156201054_5214829509552537726_o.jpg

Better fuzz/drive collection than the $200/day studio we recorded in last winter.

Re: jangley guitars, angular chops: guitar gear thread

Hard to beat that collection, to be honest. Seems like it would pretty much cover just about any rock 'n' roll tone this side of "metal." And I'm sure you can coax slower Sabbath-style tones out of that setup no problem.

- Nathan

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nice gear bewls!

are you coaxing some malkmus sounds outta that fuzz factory?

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Ultra jealous, bewls

Do a little hopscotch

10 (edited by bewls 2015-08-11 16:18:52)

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now if I could only have the space and time to actually use any of it..
I use to have space and time
now I have a photo of whats in my closet...need to revamp for sure
    the klon ktkr is new as I had a Klon Centaur I bought years ago but the selling price got so ridiculous that I had to put it up on eBay..this KTR sounds pretty dead on..

anyway..its a bit Malkmus/Sean Eden from luna...2 tones that have had me in cuffs the last 2 decades

and when i finally find the time it will be all noodles...

Re: jangley guitars, angular chops: guitar gear thread

nguideau wrote:

Hard to beat that collection, to be honest. Seems like it would pretty much cover just about any rock 'n' roll tone this side of "metal." And I'm sure you can coax slower Sabbath-style tones out of that setup no problem.


only when I play supernaut...

Re: jangley guitars, angular chops: guitar gear thread

so i just moved into a new home and it has a great semi-finished room in the basement for jamming. it was previously a wine cellar and then a gym

it's approx 8x10' and def needs some acoustic dampening. right now it feels like a nice average humidity, but this is a pittsburgh pa summer and the ac is prob keeping things nice at the moment.

anyway, wanna keep an accurate accounting of the humidity and possibly invest in humidifiers/dehumidifiers eventually

any suggestions for a good hygrometer?

pics:
http://i.imgur.com/0mU38JP.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/HigkQq1.jpg

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Was pleased to see namenamename using the same Sovtek Big Muff I have at his solo gig in Edinburgh! smile

"It´s a fine line between clever and..eh.. stupid"

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just got this badboy in the mail today!!

http://i.imgur.com/RAxD7pU.jpg

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:drool:

https://instagram.com/p/6ijMhuPMBi/

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How are you liking that color box, realmac?

i'm shopping for an ampeg right now. looking at 70's B25B heads, good for bass and guitar.

http://c-nelson.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/1972AmpegB25B002.jpg

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im finding the colour box to be extremely versatile

such warm and rich boost, can get real lush with some eq tweaking

then the db increase with the step gain knob...i've never heard my rig (essentailly fender strat/tele thru a 76 champ) growl and snarl like this. the drive and the breakup are so brutal in the best kind of way

good luck on the ampeg!! im currently trickin out the jam room in the basement, once that is done im gonna turn my attention to seriously upping my amp and speaker game

18 (edited by swede 2015-08-20 11:05:42)

Re: jangley guitars, angular chops: guitar gear thread

Been out of the loop for too long and don't know what to get for "solo/lead" stuff. Need a little bit more distortion but mostly a volume push. More distortion usually just pushes the sound deeper into muddy compressed land....Any tips?

Edit: Just realized that color box thingy must be da shit for what I want! How much is it?

"It´s a fine line between clever and..eh.. stupid"

Re: jangley guitars, angular chops: guitar gear thread

swede wrote:

Been out of the loop for too long and don't know what to get for "solo/lead" stuff. Need a little bit more distortion but mostly a volume push. More distortion usually just pushes the sound deeper into muddy compressed land....Any tips?

Edit: Just realized that color box thingy must be da shit for what I want! How much is it?


I wouldn't recommend it for that, personally. It's essentially a preamp that's designed to shape your tone to sound like it was recorded on the famous Neve console, which has a ton of preamp gain available. The thing I don't quite get -- that Neve sound was people plugging a guitar directly into the console and then recording, no amp. So it's a bit weird to me to take that sound and put it in an effects pedal between a guitar and an amp. It's also like $450, which is way rich for my tastes. It has XLR and 1/4" jacks, so I would definitely use it as a studio tool for bass and vocals and maybe guitar, but I personally would never put one of my pedal board to play thru an amp. Just my 2 cents, but in that scenario I don't think it does anything that a $150-200 boost/drive pedal wouldn't do for ya.

Ulf, what is your signal chain (kind of guitar > pedals > amp)? I can probably recommend a clean boost pedal that would get you where you wanna go, but would need to know what else is in the mix first.

Re: jangley guitars, angular chops: guitar gear thread

setyabacksetyabacksetya wrote:
swede wrote:

Been out of the loop for too long and don't know what to get for "solo/lead" stuff. Need a little bit more distortion but mostly a volume push. More distortion usually just pushes the sound deeper into muddy compressed land....Any tips?

Edit: Just realized that color box thingy must be da shit for what I want! How much is it?


I wouldn't recommend it for that, personally. It's essentially a preamp that's designed to shape your tone to sound like it was recorded on the famous Neve console, which has a ton of preamp gain available. The thing I don't quite get -- that Neve sound was people plugging a guitar directly into the console and then recording, no amp. So it's a bit weird to me to take that sound and put it in an effects pedal between a guitar and an amp. It's also like $450, which is way rich for my tastes. It has XLR and 1/4" jacks, so I would definitely use it as a studio tool for bass and vocals and maybe guitar, but I personally would never put one of my pedal board to play thru an amp. Just my 2 cents, but in that scenario I don't think it does anything that a $150-200 boost/drive pedal wouldn't do for ya.

Ulf, what is your signal chain (kind of guitar > pedals > amp)? I can probably recommend a clean boost pedal that would get you where you wanna go, but would need to know what else is in the mix first.

Thanks, setyayaya!!! Thanks for tellin'...:)

As guitars go I'll probably use the Ibanez Talman or Gibson MM for this, a Vox AC 50 and a RAT distortion or  the Sovtek Big Muff and maybe a Cry Baby Wah....the stuff we'll be playing will be some kinda power pop punk thingy which needs a bit of dynamic and I'll do what I can to keep my parts LOUD when they should be and shut the fuck up when I have nothing to say/play. There's another guitar in the band/mix too yk...

"It´s a fine line between clever and..eh.. stupid"

Re: jangley guitars, angular chops: guitar gear thread

swede wrote:
setyabacksetyabacksetya wrote:
swede wrote:

Been out of the loop for too long and don't know what to get for "solo/lead" stuff. Need a little bit more distortion but mostly a volume push. More distortion usually just pushes the sound deeper into muddy compressed land....Any tips?

Edit: Just realized that color box thingy must be da shit for what I want! How much is it?


I wouldn't recommend it for that, personally. It's essentially a preamp that's designed to shape your tone to sound like it was recorded on the famous Neve console, which has a ton of preamp gain available. The thing I don't quite get -- that Neve sound was people plugging a guitar directly into the console and then recording, no amp. So it's a bit weird to me to take that sound and put it in an effects pedal between a guitar and an amp. It's also like $450, which is way rich for my tastes. It has XLR and 1/4" jacks, so I would definitely use it as a studio tool for bass and vocals and maybe guitar, but I personally would never put one of my pedal board to play thru an amp. Just my 2 cents, but in that scenario I don't think it does anything that a $150-200 boost/drive pedal wouldn't do for ya.

Ulf, what is your signal chain (kind of guitar > pedals > amp)? I can probably recommend a clean boost pedal that would get you where you wanna go, but would need to know what else is in the mix first.

Thanks, setyayaya!!! Thanks for tellin'...:)

As guitars go I'll probably use the Ibanez Talman or Gibson MM for this, a Vox AC 50 and a RAT distortion or  the Sovtek Big Muff and maybe a Cry Baby Wah....the stuff we'll be playing will be some kinda power pop punk thingy which needs a bit of dynamic and I'll do what I can to keep my parts LOUD when they should be and shut the fuck up when I have nothing to say/play. There's another guitar in the band/mix too yk...


You should check out the exotic RC Booster pedal. Using some combination of the added gain boost and the active EQ -- you can add or cut treble and bass which can really make your solos stand our in the mix depending on how your bandmates are EQ'd -- should work like a charm with either the Rat or the Muff.

With the Rat, your boost will have to be placed AFTER it in the signal chain. Or, if your amp is already kind of overdriven (like "dirty clean" with no pedals), you could even put the RC Booster in the AC50's effects loop.

With the Muff, you could try the Booster either before or after or in the effects loop. Muffs take out midrange, so keep that in mind when you're working the EQ on the Booster.

Also-- there's going to be interplay between the boost and the dirt. If you adjust the settings on your Rat or your Muff for different sounds on different songs, you may need to adjust the EQ or gain on the Booster as well.

If you wanted to ape SM a little bit, you could ditch the Rat/Muff and get a Diamond J-Drive, which has independent boost and drive. You won't get anything near a Muff sound with it, but with the drive up, the warmth down, and the bright switch on, i bet you could get it to sound kinda like a Rat.

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Anyone wanna buy my Fender AVRI '52-style Telecaster Hot Rod? tongue I'm just plain out of space and I play my SG or cheap Strat 95% of the time. Even though the Tele is probably the all-around nicest and most valuable guitar I own, something just feels right about the other two... the scale, neck thickness, and radius on the other two are way better for my mitts.

I still want a J-Drive but haven't gotten around to it. I usually just use my Barber Launchpad to plug into both inputs of my Deluxe Reverb, which ups the gain and allows you to get that sweet tube distortion a little bit earlier on the volume dial, and then I have a T-Rex Mudhoney for sludging it up when necessary.

- Nathan

Re: jangley guitars, angular chops: guitar gear thread

setyabacksetyabacksetya wrote:
swede wrote:
setyabacksetyabacksetya wrote:

I wouldn't recommend it for that, personally. It's essentially a preamp that's designed to shape your tone to sound like it was recorded on the famous Neve console, which has a ton of preamp gain available. The thing I don't quite get -- that Neve sound was people plugging a guitar directly into the console and then recording, no amp. So it's a bit weird to me to take that sound and put it in an effects pedal between a guitar and an amp. It's also like $450, which is way rich for my tastes. It has XLR and 1/4" jacks, so I would definitely use it as a studio tool for bass and vocals and maybe guitar, but I personally would never put one of my pedal board to play thru an amp. Just my 2 cents, but in that scenario I don't think it does anything that a $150-200 boost/drive pedal wouldn't do for ya.

Ulf, what is your signal chain (kind of guitar > pedals > amp)? I can probably recommend a clean boost pedal that would get you where you wanna go, but would need to know what else is in the mix first.

Thanks, setyayaya!!! Thanks for tellin'...:)

As guitars go I'll probably use the Ibanez Talman or Gibson MM for this, a Vox AC 50 and a RAT distortion or  the Sovtek Big Muff and maybe a Cry Baby Wah....the stuff we'll be playing will be some kinda power pop punk thingy which needs a bit of dynamic and I'll do what I can to keep my parts LOUD when they should be and shut the fuck up when I have nothing to say/play. There's another guitar in the band/mix too yk...


You should check out the exotic RC Booster pedal. Using some combination of the added gain boost and the active EQ -- you can add or cut treble and bass which can really make your solos stand our in the mix depending on how your bandmates are EQ'd -- should work like a charm with either the Rat or the Muff.

With the Rat, your boost will have to be placed AFTER it in the signal chain. Or, if your amp is already kind of overdriven (like "dirty clean" with no pedals), you could even put the RC Booster in the AC50's effects loop.

With the Muff, you could try the Booster either before or after or in the effects loop. Muffs take out midrange, so keep that in mind when you're working the EQ on the Booster.

Also-- there's going to be interplay between the boost and the dirt. If you adjust the settings on your Rat or your Muff for different sounds on different songs, you may need to adjust the EQ or gain on the Booster as well.

If you wanted to ape SM a little bit, you could ditch the Rat/Muff and get a Diamond J-Drive, which has independent boost and drive. You won't get anything near a Muff sound with it, but with the drive up, the warmth down, and the bright switch on, i bet you could get it to sound kinda like a Rat.

Thanks setya! That RC booster seems sweet. Could definitely be just what I need. I should of course give the Zvex a try....haven't really done that since a friend of mine has borrowed it for his studio. Or maybe I should just get one of those amps that goes to 11....

"It´s a fine line between clever and..eh.. stupid"

Re: jangley guitars, angular chops: guitar gear thread

setyabacksetyabacksetya wrote:
swede wrote:

Been out of the loop for too long and don't know what to get for "solo/lead" stuff. Need a little bit more distortion but mostly a volume push. More distortion usually just pushes the sound deeper into muddy compressed land....Any tips?

Edit: Just realized that color box thingy must be da shit for what I want! How much is it?


I wouldn't recommend it for that, personally. It's essentially a preamp that's designed to shape your tone to sound like it was recorded on the famous Neve console, which has a ton of preamp gain available. The thing I don't quite get -- that Neve sound was people plugging a guitar directly into the console and then recording, no amp. So it's a bit weird to me to take that sound and put it in an effects pedal between a guitar and an amp. It's also like $450, which is way rich for my tastes. It has XLR and 1/4" jacks, so I would definitely use it as a studio tool for bass and vocals and maybe guitar, but I personally would never put one of my pedal board to play thru an amp. Just my 2 cents, but in that scenario I don't think it does anything that a $150-200 boost/drive pedal wouldn't do for ya.

Ulf, what is your signal chain (kind of guitar > pedals > amp)? I can probably recommend a clean boost pedal that would get you where you wanna go, but would need to know what else is in the mix first.

swede, the colour box does do what you are lookin for, some real sweet thickening of tone and nice clean volume boost. then if you wanna turn up the crunch without getting "muddy". the thing has loads of db gain, i am beyond a doubt getting some of my favorite distortion ever, and i dont like to use a lot of heavy drive either, but this just seems like a different beast. and the versatility!! the eq and highpass functions really open it up.

it mainly lives on my board, but i love that i can also plug it into my acoustic setup, a bass rig or my keys rig and use it for so much there too

as to the price tag, all you gotta do is be a little vigilant on reverb.com and the like, i got this pedal for about a 3rd off list. as to why you would want a pedal that mimics plugging into a classic consol...like they say, why climb a mountain? this is what pedals are for, what they're all about!

Re: jangley guitars, angular chops: guitar gear thread

swede wrote:

Been out of the loop for too long and don't know what to get for "solo/lead" stuff. Need a little bit more distortion but mostly a volume push. More distortion usually just pushes the sound deeper into muddy compressed land....Any tips?

Edit: Just realized that color box thingy must be da shit for what I want! How much is it?


Happy with JDrive  and even my new Fulltone Fulldrive 2 ( pretty reasonable price as well)
best for volume and tube amp excel is the Klon KTR  which is the "Klon Centaur affordable now"