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Topic: A hint from Mike (clutching at straws)

@Charky8 Things are pretty quiet on the Jickstern front, but 2017 will probably demand some kind of action before it's over.
https://twitter.com/phantom_fingers/sta … 7228825600

Re: A hint from Mike (clutching at straws)

That`s bad news. Its already 3 years since WOAJ. I can`t see anything coming until autumn

Re: A hint from Mike (clutching at straws)

When should we give up on Secret History Vol. 2?

Re: A hint from Mike (clutching at straws)

My presumption is that Malk is spending a lot of time with his family, which is probably the right decision, but I'm selfish and want new music from my favrorte songwriter. At least not all hope has been lost..

Do a little hopscotch

Re: A hint from Mike (clutching at straws)

Dad Rock! Please.

"It´s a fine line between clever and..eh.. stupid"

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Re: A hint from Mike (clutching at straws)

Radixxs wrote:

My presumption is that Malk is spending a lot of time with his family, which is probably the right decision, but I'm selfish and want new music from my favrorte songwriter. At least not all hope has been lost..

That's exactly right. I saw him in SF at the museum and asked him in person If would be performing in NYC again anytime soon. He said with his kids being so young touring has been tough. So there you go.

Instagram: matador_22

Re: A hint from Mike (clutching at straws)

hopefully that means he’s drinking Budweiser in his basement after his kids sleep, and piling up loads of new tunes for future release.    at least that’s what I do.  difference is his songs are good. 

another face the truth-ish thing would be cool during the interim too...


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8 (edited by setyabacksetyabacksetya 2017-01-18 13:04:59)

Re: A hint from Mike (clutching at straws)

Jesus Christ wrote:

hopefully that means he’s drinking Budweiser in his basement after his kids sleep, and piling up loads of new tunes for future release.  at least that’s what I do.  difference is his songs are good. 

another face the truth-ish thing would be cool during the interim too...

i would loooove a FTT-ish thing, simply because I love that record, but I don't think that approach would hasten the release of new material. the actual process of making an album is easier and more flexible than it's ever been. for most, probably not so demanding that it would be mutually exclusive with parenting two school-age kids.

in a perfect world, with no additional considerations, if steve has songs (he must?!) and the band is available (sounds like they are?), the Jicks could waltz into a studio tomorrow and have an album streaming before the snow melts.

and we'd all love it smile

but until they can commit to the demands of a full tour with the brutal PR push, the whole idea just doesn't seem viable. sad

Re: A hint from Mike (clutching at straws)

I'd happily take an album with no tour (or even just no tour sizable enough that I'd get to see them). I gather everyone here feels the same.

I suppose the question on that is, what are Matador's costs to a get a new album out the door, and how likely is Matador to recoup those costs and make at least a little scratch on the effort if there's a fairly small amount of PR and tourage to support the sales?

It wouldn't at all be hard for Steve and the Jix to put something out sans Matador (I'm making a huge assumption that there's no contract preventing such a thing). But it does seem like Matador and SM have been good to each other for a long, long time, and that type of relationship might run deeper and be something nobody wants to stomp on. Fair enough, if so.

- Nathan

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Re: A hint from Mike (clutching at straws)

nguideau wrote:

I'd happily take an album with no tour (or even just no tour sizable enough that I'd get to see them). I gather everyone here feels the same.

I suppose the question on that is, what are Matador's costs to a get a new album out the door, and how likely is Matador to recoup those costs and make at least a little scratch on the effort if there's a fairly small amount of PR and tourage to support the sales?

It wouldn't at all be hard for Steve and the Jix to put something out sans Matador (I'm making a huge assumption that there's no contract preventing such a thing). But it does seem like Matador and SM have been good to each other for a long, long time, and that type of relationship might run deeper and be something nobody wants to stomp on. Fair enough, if so.

I don't know what typical costs are for a band like the Jicks to track, mix, master and press an LP, but I don't think it'd be possible for Matador to break even without a tour and all the buzz that goes along with it. According to Wikipedia, Mirror Traffic sold 30,000 copies in its first two years. That was with a big name producer, lots of PR, and a two-leg US tour with 15 EU dates as well.

We aren't privy to the contractual details, nor should we be -- but I think making a profit in this business at this level still largely hinges on a successful tour. So until they're ready to hit the road or take a very different approach to releasing music, I think we'll be waiting.

Re: A hint from Mike (clutching at straws)

didn't realize the Jicks records only sell around 30k.

what is meant by "FTT-ish thing"?

was there no tour for that album?


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Re: A hint from Mike (clutching at straws)

setyabacksetyabacksetya wrote:
nguideau wrote:

I'd happily take an album with no tour (or even just no tour sizable enough that I'd get to see them). I gather everyone here feels the same.

I suppose the question on that is, what are Matador's costs to a get a new album out the door, and how likely is Matador to recoup those costs and make at least a little scratch on the effort if there's a fairly small amount of PR and tourage to support the sales?

It wouldn't at all be hard for Steve and the Jix to put something out sans Matador (I'm making a huge assumption that there's no contract preventing such a thing). But it does seem like Matador and SM have been good to each other for a long, long time, and that type of relationship might run deeper and be something nobody wants to stomp on. Fair enough, if so.

I don't know what typical costs are for a band like the Jicks to track, mix, master and press an LP, but I don't think it'd be possible for Matador to break even without a tour and all the buzz that goes along with it. According to Wikipedia, Mirror Traffic sold 30,000 copies in its first two years. That was with a big name producer, lots of PR, and a two-leg US tour with 15 EU dates as well.

We aren't privy to the contractual details, nor should we be -- but I think making a profit in this business at this level still largely hinges on a successful tour. So until they're ready to hit the road or take a very different approach to releasing music, I think we'll be waiting.

Thanks setya, I was thinking along those lines. And wouldn't blame Steve or the Jix for being Matador loyalists... it has obviously been a great relationship, at least for us fans, in spite of some of Matador's gaffes over the years (and they usually make those things right).

- Nathan

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Re: A hint from Mike (clutching at straws)

Future Man wrote:

didn't realize the Jicks records only sell around 30k.

what is meant by "FTT-ish thing"?

was there no tour for that album?

FTT was recorded mostly by Steve at home, I think, as opposed to the whole band hitting a studio and recording together. They still played shows in support of the album though.

Re: A hint from Mike (clutching at straws)

Jake has posted a picture of a drum kit and stick on Instagram with the line 'Jicks at night'. Clearly new album is recorded and will be with us soon.


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Re: A hint from Mike (clutching at straws)

ExMagician wrote:

Jake has posted a picture of a drum kit and stick on Instagram with the line 'Jicks at night'. Clearly new album is recorded and will be with us soon.

I saw that too! I hope dearly that you're right... it's hard to tell really if they've recorded anything aside from that one pic of malk at a Portland studio that was shared a few months back

Do a little hopscotch

Re: A hint from Mike (clutching at straws)

Things are starting to heat up!!!!

now, they're gonna burn me....

Re: A hint from Mike (clutching at straws)

from the looks of the photo, there was skaterock in the can apparently

Re: A hint from Mike (clutching at straws)

ahhhh

- Nathan

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Re: A hint from Mike (clutching at straws)

ExMagician wrote:

Jake has posted a picture of a drum kit and stick on Instagram with the line 'Jicks at night'. Clearly new album is recorded and will be with us soon.

What's jake's Instagram handle? Can't seem to find it.  I looked under jake morris. 

Instagram: matador_22

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Re: A hint from Mike (clutching at straws)

ash_NYC wrote:
ExMagician wrote:

Jake has posted a picture of a drum kit and stick on Instagram with the line 'Jicks at night'. Clearly new album is recorded and will be with us soon.

What's jake's Instagram handle? Can't seem to find it.  I looked under jake morris.

Drumbschool

"It´s a fine line between clever and..eh.. stupid"

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Re: A hint from Mike (clutching at straws)

swede wrote:
ash_NYC wrote:
ExMagician wrote:

Jake has posted a picture of a drum kit and stick on Instagram with the line 'Jicks at night'. Clearly new album is recorded and will be with us soon.

What's jake's Instagram handle? Can't seem to find it.  I looked under jake morris.

Drumbschool



It's PRIVATE.

now, they're gonna burn me....

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Re: A hint from Mike (clutching at straws)

fattyma4 wrote:
swede wrote:
ash_NYC wrote:

What's jake's Instagram handle? Can't seem to find it.  I looked under jake morris.

Drumbschool



It's PRIVATE.

Sorry...just saw that. Some of them here boardsters are followers....not me though, yet...

"It´s a fine line between clever and..eh.. stupid"

Re: A hint from Mike (clutching at straws)

interesting photos on jakes ig!!

pics of studios, drum charts, a mention of joanna "between bass takes"

!?!?!?


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Re: A hint from Mike (clutching at straws)

realmac wrote:

interesting photos on jakes ig!!

pics of studios, drum charts, a mention of joanna "between bass takes"

!?!?!?

and today a partial pic of malk's rig!!

the guild, the t-rex, the diamond, etc...


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Re: A hint from Mike (clutching at straws)

http://i.imgur.com/MXJFTprl.jpg