Wowee Zowee ... the beer.

best on ice in New York city

Love it! Shorts is my fav brewery by far. etlchow (from this board) and I asked Joe one time if the beer was named after the album or the Zappa song, and he said he'd leave that up to us, but the Zappa song is spelled with 'i's (Wowie Zowie). It was the beer my wife and I had on tap at our Wedding heres a pic of one I had last week while listening to the Lost Tapes collection:

Not unlike Fall fans preferences I really love Shorts but obviously not all their variants. I believe they have over one thousand at the moment !

Not a fan off all of Short's beers, but most of them I've tried are pretty damn good. I usually can pick what I'll like and not like from the ingredients though.

Favorite Michigan brewery for me is Dark Horse. Love the "Smells Like A Safety Meeting" ...also wins for greatest name for a beer ever.

Did you guys think Safety Meeting changed this year? The six pack I got tasted different -- and BAD -- from previous years. It was very yeasty and grainy. Then later in the season I saw they released a Citra Safety Meeting, tried it, and it tasted like what I remember from years past... so I kind of wonder if they always used citra hops in it before and actually changed the naming or something.

My favorite is Founder's. I have some biases here. But for me they rarely miss, and they are large enough to where they produce at a scale and level of professionalism that year-to-year when the seasonal or limited favorites come back around, you know it will taste like it always did (unless of course it is a beer like a barrel aged that by nature varies a bit per batch and per barrel).

I think I am guilty of overlooking Bell's to a degree. They have just been around and set the standard, not just in Michigan, but they are really one of the standard bearer's for craft beer nationwide. So it's almost hard not to take them for granted... most of their experimentation and limited varieties are taproom/general store only, so compared to Founder's or Short's they just don't seem as "interesting" on the shelf. But like I said, I think I often take for granted the fact of how damn good and reliable they are. Like, Two Hearted and Porter are available everywhere year round  for under $10/sixer and are just great beers.

Chiming in since I live in Michigan and like beer.

I've spent most of my adult life in Ohio and Michigan. I've lived in Michigan since 2011. I like Ohio and miss living there. But when it comes to beer Michigan wins. It's not even close.

Dark Horse's raspberry beer is excellent. Unlike many berry beers it isn't overly sweet and actually tastes like fresh fruit and not jam.

The past few years I've been growing hops in my garden. A friend uses them in his homebrew. My plants are small so we only get enough hops for a small batch of beer. But it's good beer and fun to do. We've joked about using the hops to make a cream ale and calling it Cream of Gold.

Nice! Keep that going!

I don't think it is a stretch, nor my bias, to say that Michigan is at worst one of the three best states in the country for craft beer. California is still the champ and it seems unlikely that'll ever change. Colorado and Oregon are very strong. I'd put them in a three-way tie with Michigan for second place, it ultimately comes down to your biases and preferences at that point.

I believe his exact words were: "Oh man I dunno. That's Tony's beer, he named it," referring to Tony Hansen, head brewer. Safe to say this will remain a mystery. Joe Short and I haven't spoken since we had a disagreement about Ween at a wedding. I may have been drunk.

And quite a return... MI represent.