Topic: End of year lists

Jicks made a Top 10 list: https://www.theringer.com/music/2018/12 … lbums-2018

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Cool! Rob Harvilla used to write for Deadspin if my memory serves me, and threw occasional shouts to Pavement and Malkmus in his writing.

No surprise coming from the SM forum, but I obviously disagree with the phrase "feeble late decline" regarding Pavement. Terror Twilight holds up, and I think it actually holds up better as time has gone on and it is easier to appreciate it apart from the rest of the Pavement catalog as something of a transition album for SM's output. It will always have some of Malk's most interesting and clever lyrics (Speak, See, Remember -- which also just simply whips musically).

I do think that the, uh, enhanced production values of TT are actually a bit of a demerit for it. The album has a space and polish to it that just doesn't feel quite right for the canon, whether we're talking Pavement, Silver Jews, or the Jix. The different versions of The Hexx highlight this pretty well, I think.

- Nathan

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Can I post my own lists here too?
Too many records I like to capture in a single countdown, so here's 6 themed lists of records from a nice year.

'90s indie heroes keeping the flame
1. Stephen Malkmus: Sparkle hard
2. Motorpsycho: Roadwork Vol 5. Field notes
3. J Mascis: Elastic days
4. Gruff Rhys: Babelsberg
5. Liam Hayes: Mirage garage
6. Graham Coxon: The end of the fucking world
7. Guided by voices: Space gun
8. Dead Man Ray: Eén EP
9. Jeff Tweedy: Warm
10. Superchunk: What a time to be alive
11. Dean Ween group: Rock2
12. Bevis frond: We're your friends man
13. Jon Spencer: sings the hits
14. Breeders: All nerve
15. Lee Ranaldo: In doubt, shadow him
16. The sea and cake: Any day
17. Pawlowksi/Trouvé/Blyweert: Screen
18. Yo la tengo: There's a riot going on

Mostly instrumental, some esoteric, some weird
1. Eiko Ishibashi: The dream my bones dream
2. Nils Frahm: All melody
3. Harmony rockets w/ Peter Walker: Lachesis /...
4. Nels Cline: Currents, constellations
5. Fire!: The hands
6. Jim O'Rourke: Sleep like it's winter
7. Papa M: A broke moon rises
8. Beak: >>>
9. Condor gruppe: Interplanetary travels
10. Xylouris White: Mother
11. Pram: Across the meridian
12. Szun waves: New hymn to freedom
13. Kamasi Washington: Heaven and earth
14. Thom Yorke: Suspiria

Rockin' in 2018
1. Ty Segall: Freedom's goblin
2. Ty Segall: Fudge sandwich
3. Dirk.: Album
4. Mike Donovan: How to get your record played in shops
5. Ty Segall & White fence: Joy
6. Parquet courts: Wide awaaaaake!
7. King tuff: The other
8. The Men: Drift
9. Lemon twigs: Go to school
10. Deafheaven: Ordinary corrupt human love
11. No age: Snares like a haircut
12. Wand: Perfume
13. Beths: Future me hates me
14. Albert Hammond Jr: Francis Trouble
15. Ron Gallo: Stardust birthday party
16. Thee oh sees: Smote reverser
17. Thee oh sees: Dead medic 12”
18. Ty Segall: Orange rainbow
19. Goggs: Pre strike sweep
20. Rolling blackouts CF: Hope downs
21. Wild beasts: Last night all my dreams came true

Middle-aged man's definition of pop
1. Natalie Prass: The future and the past
2. Chvrches: Love is dead
3. Superorganism: Superorganism
4. MGMT: Little dark age
5. Field music: Open here
6. Paul McCartney: Egypt station
7. Josh Rouse: Love in the modern age
8. Robyn: Honey
9. Matty: Déjàvu
10. Public access TV: Street safari

Americana
1. Scott Hirsch: Lost time behind the moon
2. Lost brothers: Halfway towards a healing
3. Jeffrey Lewis: Works by Tuli Kupferberg
4. Alela Diane: Cusp
5. Luluc: Sculptor
6. Jerry David Decicca: Time the teacher
7. NRBQ: April showers EP
8. First aid kid: Ruins
9. Andy Jenkins: Sweet punch
10. One eleven heavy: Everything's better
11. Doug Paisley: Starter home
12. Jim James: Uniform clarity
13. Joan Baez: Whistle down the wind
14. Skiffle players: Skiff
15. Willie Nelson: Last man standing
16. Brian Lopez: Prelude
17. Joan Shelley: Rivers and vessels

Mid-tempo rockin' in 2018
1. Connan Mockasin: Jassbusters
2. Okkervil river: In the rainbow rain
3. Jim James: Uniform distortion
4. Ryley Walker: Deafman glance
5. Fred Thomas: Aftering
6. D+: Destroy before listening
7. Bonny Doon: Longwave
8. Alexander Tucker: Don't look away
9. Phish: The baker's dozen. Live at Madison Square Garden (2017)
10. Joan as police woman: Damned devotion
11. BC Camplight: Deportation blues
12. Ryley Walker: The Lilywhite sessions

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ShrinkMan Thing wrote:

Can I post my own lists here too?
Too many records I like to capture in a single countdown, so here's 6 themed lists of records from a nice year.

Wow! SMT, you listened to an astounding amount of new music this year. Impressive. Here's my list:

1. SM/Jicks - Sparkle Hard
2. Kurt Vile - Bottle It In
3. Parquet Courts - Wide Awake
4. Let's Eat Grandma - I'm All Ears
5. Lucy Dacus - Historian

6. Janelle Monae - Dirty Computer


These are all the new records I heard this year. I do not own the Janelle Monae album, but would had it been available on vinyl when first released. Glad I saved my money, as it is mediocre at best and a major disappointment to me, a big fan of her previous work.

I bought about 50 other albums this year that were released prior to 2018. For my own amusement I'd like to rank those, too, and maybe I will.

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Not a lotta love here for the new Fucked Up record, eh? I think it's incredible.

- Nathan

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nguideau wrote:

Not a lotta love here for the new Fucked Up record, eh? I think it's incredible.

And I liked the Decembrist’s 2018 bits a lot, too.

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nguideau wrote:

Not a lotta love here for the new Fucked Up record, eh? I think it's incredible.

Yeah, that was a really good album!

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Re: End of year lists

My favorites this year:

of montreal:  White Is Relic/Irrealis Mood

leikeli47:  Acrylic

ty segall: Freedom's Goblins

white fence: Joy   

jean grae and quelle chris: Everything's Fine

sm jicks: Sparkle Hard

no age:  Snares Like a Haircut

janelle monae: Dirty Computer   
   

Honorable mentions: these got a lot of play at my house, too (partially due to kids)

unknown mortal orchestra: Sex and Food

superorganism: Superorganism

breeders: All Nerve

wand: Perfume (edited I accidentally put Plum which we do play a lot, too)

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Re: End of year lists

nguideau wrote:

No surprise coming from the SM forum, but I obviously disagree with the phrase "feeble late decline" regarding Pavement. Terror Twilight holds up, and I think it actually holds up better as time has gone on and it is easier to appreciate it apart from the rest of the Pavement catalog as something of a transition album for SM's output. It will always have some of Malk's most interesting and clever lyrics (Speak, See, Remember -- which also just simply whips musically).

I do think that the, uh, enhanced production values of TT are actually a bit of a demerit for it. The album has a space and polish to it that just doesn't feel quite right for the canon, whether we're talking Pavement, Silver Jews, or the Jix. The different versions of The Hexx highlight this pretty well, I think.

I think the version of The Hexx on the album is superior to any previous version, and second only to the posr-TT live performance documented on Reverb and at Coachella.

I will also say that Terror Twilight was not overproduced in my opinion, and a strong argument can be made that it's Pavement's third- best album behind the all- time classics WZ and CRCR (though I ultimately feel S+E is superior on the back of its highlights).

I think the idea of appreciating TT as something "apart from the rest of the Pavement  catalog" is some combination of absurd, stupid and asinine, no offense nguideau, and much love but please pull your head out of your ass, god bless your heart-ass.

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perfectdepth wrote:

I think the idea of appreciating TT as something "apart from the rest of the Pavement  catalog" is some combination of absurd, stupid and asinine, no offense nguideau, and much love but please pull your head out of your ass, god bless your heart-ass.

Whoa. Looks like maybe Kate's kids were posting under my username again. But I stand by this hot take while wanting to soften the expression of my disdain for my fellow SM-music-lover's (theoretically) equally valid personal opinion (no matter how wrong it is). So consider that done. Terror Twilight for life.

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perfectdepth wrote:
perfectdepth wrote:

I think the idea of appreciating TT as something "apart from the rest of the Pavement  catalog" is some combination of absurd, stupid and asinine, no offense nguideau, and much love but please pull your head out of your ass, god bless your heart-ass.

Whoa. Looks like maybe Kate's kids were posting under my username again. But I stand by this hot take while wanting to soften the expression of my disdain for my fellow SM-music-lover's (theoretically) equally valid personal opinion (no matter how wrong it is). So consider that done. Terror Twilight for life.

Foiled again! Those kids of mine, always with the late at night hijinx and the early morning face savings. The dears.

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perfectdepth wrote:
perfectdepth wrote:

I think the idea of appreciating TT as something "apart from the rest of the Pavement  catalog" is some combination of absurd, stupid and asinine, no offense nguideau, and much love but please pull your head out of your ass, god bless your heart-ass.

Whoa. Looks like maybe Kate's kids were posting under my username again. But I stand by this hot take while wanting to soften the expression of my disdain for my fellow SM-music-lover's (theoretically) equally valid personal opinion (no matter how wrong it is). So consider that done. Terror Twilight for life.

PD...

No offense taken, these are just opinions about music on the internet... but I think you've mistaken parts of my opinion for the one that Harvilla expresses in his Sparkle Hard review. I was actually disagreeing with the core of what Harvilla says about late Pavement (which, inherently, means Terror Twilight). I think TT gets unfairly panned all the time, and as I said, I think it holds up really well, and holds up better as time goes on.

As for the things I said that you took issue with... I think if you put it back in the context of me criticizing Harvilla's quip about late Pavement being "feeble," you'll see we aren't in much disagreement.

My first point about looking at TT apart from the rest of the Pavement catalog is about asking critics of it to look at it in a different light, to see what they're missing. I think it is fair to say the large share of focus on Pavement from the non-fanatic set is the influence of Slanted and the "crossover" of CR. So I'm appealing to that crowd to look at TT in its own right.

Also, I mean, I love the Pavedudes, but we can level here... 90% of the written output was Steve.

As for production value and which version of The Hexx, that's all super subjective so what can I say. TT sounds great. I think that's actually another reason to take TT on its own and not to think of it too much in the full Malkmus catalog. Clearly, it stands apart from the rest of the catalog -- it absolutely has that '90s crossover alternative act production value. Listening to it next WZ, or Sparkle Hard, give very different vibes.

- Nathan

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"Platform Blues," man.

What were the B Side releases then? And also during BTC. I remember really liking "Westie Can't Drum" and "Embassy Road" and Pacific Trim and Shady Lane eps and I'm sure more. Haven't listened in forefver but am listening to a lot of them now.

He's consistent and prolific.